Re: [-empyre-] Forward from Chad at selectparks.net

["eugenie (temp)" <eugenies@onetel.net.uk>]

i don't know if we can divide it up this neatly. the
imaginary/semiotic/whatever is conditioned by the 'real' - however we choose
to qualify that, and i would argue that it is unquantifiable by definition
(yes,, i know, i've just contradicted myself, but it's late)

e

on 8/10/03 6:08 AM, saul ostrow at so5@nyu.edu wrote:

> we should not confuse the real all phenomena perceived or not with the
> actual -- that which we are  or become aware of experiencing -- the real
> is everything that is not symbolic or imagined  -- it is with out order
> or sense/ logic -- gaming is an exploration of the relationship between
> the imagined/symbolic  and  experience  -- that is that which is used to
> order reality/ subjectivity  -- as such we are talking about the virtual
> of life --  versus the constructed representation of that which we may
> imagine and attempt to render naturalistic
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